Monday, March 28, 2022

Summary of New Testament from Jewish Point of View study March 21, 2022



Again, it was a fun morning of learning!  Jo Ann and Dan ran the study via Zoom in their car while on a road trip to Idaho.  In fact, some of the study took place while we were parked at Snowbasin Ski Resort in Ogden, Utah since right after we concluded, Jo Ann skied all afternoon!  

Robin, Jo Ann, Dan, David, Dave, Nadine, and Karen attended.  We missed Merrill and wanted to sing and wish him happy birthday.  We sang the Misheberach healing prayer for both Odette and Merill and also Nadine (who has an infected tooth).  Robin found the Debbie Friedman version and played it while we sang.  We also opened up with our new tradition of Dan leading us in “Give Us That Old Time Religion.”

(This summary below is written by Dan)

Summary of New Testament from Jewish Point of View study March 21, 2022

We studied I Corinthians chapters 5-7, which focused mainly on issues of sexual morality. The first issue was a man living with his father’s wife which caused a major scandal. Paul ordered that the man be shunned. Paul said that Christians should not associate with fellow Christians who are “immoral.” He continued this theme in I Corinthians chapter 6, verses 9- 10:”Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the king of God? Do not be deceived! Idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, robbers – none of these will inherit the kingdom of God.”

We agreed this is confusing and inconsistent with others things Paul said in Romans.

Christians should not sue other Christians in secular courts, according to another part of I Corinthians chapter 6.

Chapter 7 returns to sex and marriage. Here Paul speaks more like a rabbi, issuing rulings based on his understanding, but not as a command from God. He counsels people that singleness is preferred to marriage because it allows people to concentrate on the things of God. But he allows that not everyone can handle this, and for this reason says it’s ok to marry. To each her own. 

He issues a specific ruling that if a Christian is married to a non-Christian, the marriage is valid as long as it’s ok with the non-Christian spouse.  But if the non-Christian spouse wants out, divorce is permissible. 

He ends chapter 7 saying that widows (and widowers, I expect) are free to remarry or remain single. He says opting for singleness is preferable, in his opinion.

Again, if there is more to add to this summary, please share.

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  • Monday, March 14, 2022

    Summary - 3/14/2022 Monday New Testament From a Jewish Point of View Class




    Today we studied while Jo Ann and Dan were on the road while driving from Idaho to Colorado.  Modern technology is wonderful since Jo Ann could log into her iPad while Dan drove and facilitate our Zoom study!  Before we began studying, Jo Ann shared some photos of her recent trip to Quebec, Canada!  Odette updated us on her dad.





    Jo Ann made everyone co-hosts in case she lost service and that did happen and everyone still got to study and discuss and learn while Jo Ann and Dan “froze” somewhere in Idaho!  Eventually, we got back in.

    Dan, Jo Ann, Karen, Odette, Dave, Robin, and Merrill attended.  

    We were very glad to have Merrill back learning and studying with us after his recent very serious surgery.

    We sang the Misheberach Jewish prayer for healing for both David Phillips’ wife Susan who had surgery that morning and for Nadine who had an horrible toothache and was going to have an emergency appointment at the dentist.  We also told Merrill the Misheberach was for him and he said “It’s working!”  Odette led us in singing that prayer since none of us really knew all the words by heart. Thank you Odette!

    We also began our study with our new tradition of Dan leading us in singing “Give Me That Old Time Religion.”  

    We read both chapters 4 and 5 from 1st Corinthians.  Dan said this is a letter in response that Paul wrote to a letter Paul received.  According to Dan, Paul seemed to be a bit sarcastic in Chapter 4.  

    We noticed that Paul told the receivers of the letter that they had been tattled on.  Paul talks about their sexual immorality and that they were boastful.

    Dan asked Merrill if the term “Father” in the Catholic Church leadership comes from Paul saying he was a Father to them in Chapter 4.

    There was some discussion (I don’t know how we got to it) about the levels of giving.  Dave shared a web page from a Jewish learning page about all the levels of giving which was quite interesting.

    From there we learned that the highest level of giving is when a person helps a person who might be homeless get back on their feet.  Merrill shared how he has converted motels in both Orange County and Long Beach into places those “down on their luck” can live as long as they hold down a job.  Jo Ann shared that one of the happiest times in her life was when she helped others get on their feet.  

    Robin mentioned that Paul said things like “Don’t judge,” but then judged.  Odette agreed.  Karen talked about how she tries to be humble.  

    Again, if there is more to add to this summary, please share.

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  • Thursday, March 10, 2022

    The Purim Story!


    Ever since my children were little, we’ve enjoyed this wonderful version of The Purim Story that can be accessed from the YouTube video link below.  It is probably that best and entertaining of any Purim spiel.  A lot of Midrash is in it too I think.





    Monday, March 7, 2022

    Summary - New Testament From a Jewish Point of View Class 3/7/2022


    Below is a summary of what my husband Dan wrote about what went on at our New Testament From a Jewish Point of View Class which took place on Monday, March 7, 2022:

    Temple Israel New Testament from a Jewish perspective, Monday, March 7, 2022

    I Corinthians chapter 3

    Jo Ann, Karen, Robin, Odette, David, Dave, Nadine and Dan attended.

    In this passage the apostle Paul addresses the Christians in Corinth as “infants” in their Christian experience because of their unspiritual “fleshly” ways of quarrelling, etc.

    Jo Ann was interested in the language Paul uses of “flesh” and “spirit”. Odette addressed the analogy Paul draws of an architect constructing a building, specifically the reference to gold and other precious materials. It reminded her of the construction of the Tabernacle. Robin wondered if the language about a structure being tested by being set on fire may have been a reference to or a prophecy about the destruction of the Second Temple which was still a future event at the time of this writing.

    Karen drew on her experiences of being “shamed” by other people and of the reference to Paul saying people are like a “temple.” Shaming someone who is a person is shaming God’s temple, and is therefore wrong. Dave discussed what Paul wrote at the end of this chapter saying that “Christ belongs to God” and it’s apparent contradiction to the present day understanding of the Christian Trinity.

    Jo Ann addressed the idea of “baby Christians” and wondered if there is such a thing as a “baby Jew.” This led David into a discussion of stereotypes of converts of all religions and specifically stereotypes of Jewish converts.

    At some point the description of Donald Trump by some evangelicals (including James Dobson) as a “baby Christian” was brought up. I doubt few if any present bought that description.

    Some interesting movies from the 1980s about young people being recruited by religious cults were mentioned. A discussion of the practice of proselytizing brought a funny story from Odette about her encounter with some Jehovah’s Witnesses that ended when the JW’s declined to help her dig her car out of the snow.

    (Jo Ann summarized the movie Ticket to Heaven where a young Jewish man gets sucked into a religious cult.)

    We ended up talking about Chabad and Rabbi Perlmutter’s eloquence. We all admired Robin’s beautiful singing voice as we sang the Misheberach Jewish healing prayer for Merrill.

    Again, if anything in this summary has not been mentioned, please add to it.  We will study1st Corinthians Chapter 4 next week.

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    Wednesday, March 2, 2022

    Summary New Testament From a Jewish Point of View Class 2/28/2022


    Of course, and again, we had a fun discussion!  Dan, Jo Ann, Karen, David, Robin, Odette, and Nadine attended.  We read 1st Corinthians Chapter Two.

    Before we began, Jo Ann decided that it might be fun to do some sort of opening “prayer” so Dan led us in singing “Give Us That Old Time Religion!”

    Below is a summary Dan wrote up about what we talked about:

    ‘What is the meaning of “spiritual”?  We read this word a lot in 1 Corinthians 2 and I believe that most of us listening considered ourselves to be reasonably “spiritual” people. But it was mentioned, I believe by Robin,  that Paul seemed to imply that only people who believed in the death and resurrection of Jesus are spiritual. This passage concluded with not only the assertion that it is important to be spiritual but that these truths cannot be understood without being spiritual. 

    We had a discussion of the “gift of discernment” and Karen mentioned that she was trying to be discerning as she read about developments in the invasion of Ukraine by Russia.

    Dan mentioned that this letter by Paul of Tarsus was a “snapshot” of a certain point in the development of early Christians and that later churches had less emphasis of the “spiritual gifts” and instead developed leadership structures that were similar to that of the Roman government.

    Input is requested to supply more information as to what more was said during our session that lasted more than an hour.’

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